the investigation and if any one anywhere will be held responsible for the deaths of the ambassador and three americans. joining us radio talk she host guy benson. guy, welcome. your reaction for the news? the secretary of state kerry said the four are ready to return. >> it is an eyebrow raiser to say the least in regard to the benghazi saga investigation. the only four people held responsible in any shape or form by the u.s. government for what happened that night, they have all been cleared and given reprieves and as of today reinstated on the job. you will remember that secretary clinton used the a rb, the administrative review board internal report from the administration to come down with

the disciplinary action eight months ago. secretary kerry reviewed the review, and decided that these people don't merit further sanctions and they have received paychecks the entire time and they are now back on the job including one woman named charlene lamb. viewers remember during the testimony before the house oversight committee about the raid she said under oath, the u.s. had "the correct number of security assets on the grouped in benghazi" which was directly contradicted by other whistle-blowers and defies common sense begin the fact that dozens of jihaddist overran and ransacked them. ms.lamb back at work today.

>> they were based on the accountability review board. congressman darril issa said this in reaction. in the course of our investigation, the state department review of the four individuals and four folks we are talking about did not include interviews with them or their supervisors to challenge allegations. and he pledged that the oversight committee will expand its investigation in benghazi and how accountability review board in a decision by secretary kerry not to pursue any accountability from anyone. how can they conduct the review and never talk to the four individuals in >> not only did they not talk to the individuals, it did not interview the secretary of state at the time, hillary clinton. and the administration and white house insisted that the a rb was the end-all and be all of

benghazi investigations. that was used to demean and diminish the house oversight committee investigation and gave rise to the insulting phony talking points and phony scandal and talking ponents that the president himself has promul gated and i think it is a white wash from the beginning and they have put four individuals, some of whom who didn't have going to do with the mistakes that were made leading up and during the attack itself. they put it in the penalty box and some of them are back on the job and reassigned. if you look at what has or has not happen since the attacks, nearly a year ago, there is still not a single arrest of any of the dozens of terrorist that perpetrated the attack. we have not had a single person fired in the u.s. government over the meltdown of security

including these four people. as a matter of fact, the whole controversy overthe fate false talking points, you remember that. two of the central players victoria newland and susan rice were promoted by president obama and we saw in the last few weeks an internal review by the state department that revealed still to this day, 15 high risk u.s. diplomatic missions and embassies and consulates around the world in dangerous places still have inadequate security including the embassy in beirut, lebanon. has any lessons learned? the answer to the questions is no. >> it is interesting to note that congressman chaffetz said they are blaming low level employees that were not truly responsible. maybe these four are the four but the investigation needs to

and will continue. >> thank you. >> as guy mentioned it was a year since the terrorist attack in the american consulate in benghazi. it took the fbi weeks to get there and investigate the attack. two more months passed before the fbi questioned a suspect. the fbi released surveillance photos of three men in the scone of the attack asking them for help to help find other suspects. the first charges were foiled in connection of the case. those charges are under seal and all the while, the family of the victims wait for answers. and for president obama to fulfill his promise to bring those who did this to justice. we'll stay on it. >> senator ted cruz will be 100 percent american on paper. he plans to renounce his

canadian citizenship after a texas newspapers reported that he held dual citizenship. he was born in calgary and father was cuban and his mother american giving him automatic cruz u.s. citizenship. he may be setting up a 2016 presidential run? >> hum. new exciting on line video contest. we have 30,000 prizes up for grabs and contest that show cases laws and importance of health benefits for people. >> apparently nancy pelosi's promise you will love obama care once you know what is in it is not enough. you heard the secretary sebil us on to take part in a video contest helping to promote the law. if that is not enough to raise

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got to help fund the less healthy people. if the young people don't buy into this, where does the funding come from? >> exactly. what the president's health care law said the insurance industry has to insurance those who are born with a condition and they are not making money for the insurance industry and as recompense, the law said people who haven't wanted to buy insurance, buy insurance but the fine is only $95 in the first year. and so the government said spend 4,000 on insurance to avoid a $95 penalty and as there are so many questions about the quality of what is inside obama care, young consumers who pay for this are not interested in coming in and they are forced in depracticeidations as the health

and human services doing viral video buzz. >> give us the acorn connection, what is that all about? >> if anybody should know about the viral consequences wouldn't it be acorn? and it was laid low by viral video from a couple of conservative activist and pose as a pimp and prostitute pair and found help in continuing their business. when they went to acorn outlets, those videos went viral and poof. they had a lobbyist that needed a job and fingerprintly there is one for him. there is always connections in washington and the center for community change, they launched young invincibles that does the outreach to young people and a lot of money involved here and nothing compared to the millions

that are spent and helped to educate and sale. and we have navigators and cent million for people in grants. and able to access your personal information and a lot of selling for something that was going to be so fabulous people will be clamoring for it. >> you know it is up when they have to get an a d campaign for free stuff. if they have it available for a long time people would be attracted to the free stuff and they would stay; but the problem for the president is that the law is unpopular and uncertain as it goes into the implementation phase. if these targeted desirable young people can't be forced as they haven't been able to our lured as i betel that not be able to by the video into the process, everybody's insurance rates will go up under the law

and if that happens tincreases the chance his signature achievement will get wiped out or remade by the follower or successor which could be hillary clinton or a republican. >> i will check out those entryes. i want to see who turns in what video and how they are going to endorse. >> makes me want to do the robot. >> i made my husband i would stop doing robot on tv. >> never stop, shannon. >> by the way, the story of the video contest is on the top of the fox first. it is one of the hottest stories straight to your inbox every single morning and a way to start fully informed. go to fox news first. enter into your e-mail and click sign up and you are ready to go. fox news.com/fox news first. don't miss it.

>> as a l ja reezea america and we'll look at the controversy overseas. a man helped a man out of a burning car. how a perfect stranger saved one of the most popular figures in tv history. >> and a new controversy over stand your ground laws. and the encounter between trayvon martin and george zimmerman. styled after. we are not saying it is correct. we'll look at what it says and compare it to the actual facts and sworn testimony in the case. there is gunshots. who is saying they shot. a guy is raising his hands up and shot a person. >> oh, my god.

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>> new controversy in the fight over self defense and firearms. check this out. >> >> it is the back entrance. are you following them? >> yeah. >> okay, we don't need you to do that. >> okay. . all right. what is your name? george. >> i think they are yelling help. but i don't know. >> does he look hurt. >> i can't so him and i don't want to go out there and know what is going on. you think he's yelling for help.

>> yes, there is gunshots. >> who is saying who shot. >> a guy is raising his hands up and said he shot i person. >> oh, my god. he has someone at gun point and they are going to handle the situation. >> oh, my god. it is a young boy. >> let's talk about it. host of richard faller andulara larson. welcome to you both. >> thank you shannon. >> i want to start with the coalition to stop gun violence. this is what they say in talking about the a d. jurisprudence was thrown on its

head by george martin and the others. if you lose a fight and kill the person you attack, la rs is that what happened. >> no. the fight was started by trayvon martin and george zimmerman ended up in a position in the ground with trayvon martin on top of him. one of the prosecutors straddled the dummy and showed how zimmerman was beat on before he managed to shoot the young man. if you assault someone you have a right to fight back not only stand your ground. self defense is that way in every group in america. and the group wants to have you unarmed. stand your ground law is not used in the zimmerman case. did it do disservice if we are starting from a place that is not factually accurate.

>> the stand your ground was in the jury instruction. >> no, it wasn't. >> trayvon walked home. if george zimmerman never left the vehicle he would be alive. we all agree with self defense and i support the castle doctrine. if you walk in my castle you have a right to shoot. but if you are threatened in the middle of the street that is absurd. >> they had gotten into a physical alteroccasion and they both took actions that led them to that moment. at that point. joefrnl zimmerman, witnesses say he was on the bottom. and he believed that trayvon martin saw the gun and was going to use it against him and he defended himself. stand your ground defense is not something he used. saying they are not fair and

done away with? why not throw it away, la res. >> the news media spent a year that stand your ground had something to do with it. on my radio show i made it clear. there was language similar to stand your ground and inserted on the part of the prosecutors trying to convince the jury. it was not stand your ground. what richard said it ridiculous. >> that is not true. >> richard let me finish. if you are threatened in a public place by anybody they have a right to defend yourself. by the way shannon, the department of justice has the best study done on this. 2 million times a year americans are threatened by somebody and they pull a gun and point in the bad guy and vast majority of the case they don't fire the shot and the crime stops. that happens more than 2 million

times a year and in the majority they are not in somebody's home. you have a right to defend yourself as you do in public as in your home. >> first of all trayvon martin was not a criminal. he was a young man returning for 7- 11. >> if you assault somebody you are. >> ground your law justifies open killing season. >> no, it does not. >> there is a difference between self defense and saying somebody hits you take out a gun and shoot them. >> shannon: >> no one could argue that someone stepping on the show lace made them in danger of being killed. i am 0, we have to leave it there. richard and la res thank you very much. >> up next, tell a quick thinking passerby saved the life of a hollywood famous face.

>> it is back to school time and moms are complaining that retailers want their daughters to dress trashy. where does the blame lie in the struggle between stores and shoppers. someone is buying it or they wont be selling it. you know throughout history,

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new details of the harrassment case against san diego mayor bob filener. both supporters and yes there are supporters and oppons are holding rallies. >> rumors that are swirling around him regarding his disrespect excel demeaning treatment of women, they have not called on bob filner to

resign. and organized labor has financial resources to help qualify a recall. >> i am appalled at the attacks by mayor filner is pure vindictiveness on the part of the opopes. >> this is reminiscent of the 1950s mccarty era. in the 1950s, all a person had to do is point at someone and say i think they are a communist. >> he is not tried in a court of law. but he's tried by the media and that's not how we do it in this country. >> filner vowed to rurp to work after completing a two week program. the recall petition can go to

the city city that must schedule a reaction in 60- 92 days. >> dick van dyke pulled from his car in a harrowing rescue. flames engulfing the jagua r. his publicist said he's doing fine if not embarrassed. and they are live with the latest. >> yeah, he kept a sense of humor in the entire thing. the 87 year old actor is okay, but not for the man who pulled him from the vehicle it would be dfrp. he pulled over on the la freeway after hearing what he thought a flat tire. next thing he knew a good american pulled him out of the car. jason told tmz he was drying and he saw a car full of smoke.

he saw an elderly man hunched over the whole. van dyke said he was about to exit himself. moments after the engine caught fire and the car exploded and just for the screen and stage veteran, he seemed unphased about the whole thing. listen. >> i thought i was trying to call the dmz. >> he thought i was passed out and he yanked me out. very exciting. >> regular citizen driving by helped you out. what a nice guy. >> after the incident he and his wife tweeted photos. his wife said he is fine and showed the shell of the car and van dyke talking to the cars and he was unharmed and drove home by his wife. and van dyke said someone from above was watching out for him.

>> i love that he is 87 and tweeting. >> i know. >> and coming up. a troubling headline in a fight over opportunity versus entitlements. it is more profitable to be on welfare than it is to go to work and the network that broadcast messages from a dangerous terrorist launches a new cable channel here in the u.s. we'll look at the back lash against al-jazeera america. >> and the mom's back lash on clothes for younger teens and girls. some retailers want our girls to dress trashy. what and who is to blame? .

breaking news from the white house priesting room, a lot of tough questions today. but first. the administration said the u.s. cut off assistance to egypt. they say that is not true, but went on to add they're evaluating. and the religious leader of the muslim brotherhood. we'll have a report on the top hour of the white house. and fill you in for all of the details. >> just in time for back to school. moms are complaining about the

fashion choice for our daughters. some retailers want the girls to dress dressy by drawing attention to the looks and sexuality instead of their brains. joining us is strategist. and lee stern is a parenting belower with diva moms opinion com. >> welcome to you. >> we'll start with you. there is one t- shirt that got attention from the children's place and talked about subjects that i am great in and all kinds of things. they got back lash for that and they pulled it, is that a good enough solution? >> i think it is a good solution but we have an overemphasis of girls and women on how they look nothing wrong with looking nice. but the over appearance and teaching girl that that is a positive trait and not substance and knowledge and

being smart. you can be beautiful, too but not emphasized as the most important thing. >> does anybody think that these messages are like i am cute and can't figure it out. you are shaking your heads no? >> i didn't so that there was a problem with celebrating and it is not okay for girls who like shopping and dress up and barbies. we are way too politically correct and can't put them in a political petree dish. >> we don't see that for boys. they are super heros and firefighter and tough guys. and onesies for babies and smart like daddy and pretty like mommy. >> you know, i think it comes back to the brands should think about the messaging and empowering young girls to be smart and beautiful and smart and be powerful. it is not just i wear diamonds

and i am beautiful and i will do well in school. we need to send out that message to girls that being beautiful equals being smart and powerful and educating and empowering these girls to think about more than just beauty. of course they want to look beautiful but there is so much more. and it is a experience to come in and let's she that as well. >> we have other t- shirts to show, too. >> we have other t- shirts. who needs brains when you have these? >> the words are going cross a part of the a natome and a lot of these shirts are not out there anymore. bottom line question. retailers don't put stuff on the shelves when they don't sell. dee, dee is it okay to buy them. >> not those shirts.

if you want to wear it tis your free speech. i don't think you should jump on the retailers for. that you are right they are selling it. we all americans and do whatever we want, so be it. >> they don't have the money or transportation to get this. >> parents need to be teaching their daughters in a young age, science and math is something that girls can excel at. my dad is a micro biologist. he used to help me with my science project. i wanted to do my math home work and go to college and excel. there is nothing wrong with looking nice. and there is nothing wrong with that but you can also study math and science and be madam president. maybe we should sale those. >> the smart and not ditsy argument. so many retailers have pictures

that are sexualized and the age limits. they are made to look very, very young. american apparel. i am talking to you. and a lot of those ads that are the worst of the worst. they are in europe. but still, that is a clothing company that is loved by teenage sxers young people and yet they have all kinds of pictures and messages that make our kids male and female like leases of meats who can't wait to have sex. >> you don't have to buy those shannon. don't buy them. it is up to the parent. >> yes, it is the parent's responsibility and as parents we need to make sure what we are buying our children is appropriate and that is something that parents need to recognize and say when you go in the stores, this is not appropriate for my nine-year-old and if she likes it in high

school she can buy. it but i am the parent and i will make sure my child is not wearing these kinds. >> some of the catalogs there are not a lot of thing. >> almost like child pornography. >> and the other side of free speech argument we have the right to say it is not appropriate for an eight-year-old. when i have a daughter in the future, if i am mreszed with that. >> and there is nothing wrong with her wanting to be a super hero. why are the boys always told they are the ones. >> there are super hero shirts. empowers little girls and i know i am pretty. so what, that is okay. >> being pretty is not the best. >> smart and beautiful. we like. that and free speech is the key to the core of this country. vote with your dollars. thank you all very much.

thank you. respiratory >> this is a fox news alert out of atlanta. we are getting reports of gunfire in an atlanta area school. we are seeing live shots here. we are told that police have a suspect in custody. we have live pictures coming back from the school. it looks like they are evacuated and clustered around buses. fox station in atlanta reporting that the person is in custody and no word if they injured anyone or what the gunman was shooting at. we are hoping to have a lot more for you in three minutes. when we get more we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is brad.

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>> we have reports of gunfire in an atlanta elementary school. police have a suspect in custody and you are watching live

coverage from wa ga. let's listen in. >> students started to be evacuated from the school. it is an elementary school that hugheses students. theyushed them to a grassy fold behind the field to safety. that continued 30 minutes or so. they are gathered in two buss and as they told us. they are reunited with their partnerships in walmart. if you are a parent sitting at home watching this and don't rush to the school and be reunited with your child in the walmart there. they don't want them flocking to the scene. it is where the story is still developing at this hour.

we haven't heard the all clear from authorities at this point who were searching for another suspect or someone else in the school or around the school in conjunction with the person taken into custody. what do we know about the person. he was described as a man who walked in and said he wanted to talk to police. we don't know if he was a parent or a worker at the school and we don't know anything else. we are trying to gather that kind of information for you. and we are waiting for an all chlor from authorities on the scene. they have evacuated the scene there with students out back there. gathering and waiting to get on the school because. and they will meet their partners in the walmart on gressham road and i- 20. again, the story started to develop rather fast. deidra dukes is on the scone there.

i can only imagine authorities wanting parents to stay away. they have rushed to the scene understandably concerned about their children. >> my photographer panned off so you can get an idea of the traffic congestion we are seeing in the intersection. it is along the stretch leading to the elementary school. parents are rushing here and other concerned neighbors and community members upon hearing that there is a situation at the school. just moments ago. a fire and rescue ambulance with sirens blaring came through and turning those sirens off and once they did clear the intersection and making sure motorist were able to give away and let them get to the destination. we have an officer on the scene and providing us information. he told us where parents are being directed and told they need to head over to the walmart

parking lot. and the shopping center and that the kids are being bussed to the parking lot and parents can meet their children at gressham and 20 at decatture. and still upon hearing this, you can only misdemeanoring the fear and concern that parents have not knowing what is going on and hearing that someone with a gun there at the school and not knowing where their children are and not able to reach them and one of the school becauses there, it doesn't look like there are any children in the school. the police officer most likely directing that bus driver to what route they want her to take to pick up the children. they were evacuated and still on the property, my understanding, on the campus grounds and have been evacuated. >> and these school buses being directed to the area where they are to pick the children up and

relieved partners are meeting them some ways away this afternoon. and very congested situation here. and we happen why parents are concerned and why they would want to come here forward. and why it is so important that they do in fact, listen to police and head over there. and because, you know, as we know. police have the situation looked down and they are not allowing parents on the property today. it would make it more difficult. and from what we see people down the street, and no doubt since we so the folks coming back after a bit and telling them where they can go and get the information they need and just a situation out here where people are still very much concerned and just eager to be

reunited with their students, lisa. >> very eager. >> and it is a discovery and learning academy opened their doors for students and now a short few years later, a crisis at hand here and although authorities say it is under control or appears that way. we are told that the superintendant told us that the suspect was taken in custody and precautions are still being taken at the school that is situated on second avenue. 61- 22 second avenue and just north of i- 20 tucked away in a neighborhood. you are looking at a school bus leaving the area of the school, filled with stuns and waiting to be reunited with their parents. >> we are listening to atlanta, where there is a shooting in the school. it is an elementary school and as of right now, they don't know

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breaking news out of atlanta. we have reports from the associated press and now from our local affiliate wa ga. a man walked in the school outside of atlanta. he said he didn't want to hurt anyone but wanted to speak to police. the school was evacuated and no one was hurt. the suspect is in custody. and the kids were vehicle vacced and they are doing a head count to make sure everybody was okay. let's listen to the local

coverage at wa ga. >> that person entered into the school with a gun and we can see the students and everybody is safe at this moment. they are sitting on the grass waiting to board the buses as they arrive here in the elementary school. there are two buses already on the scene and it looks like students -- on are lined up for drivers to arrive and take them off of the school property. we received reports of that gunman inside of the school and then maybe 5 or 10 minutes later, we saw the students filing out. the majority rather calm row. we saw some running to safety in the field there. that process continued on a steady pace of 10-15 minutes. we told you earlier that $0.08

stoupts attended the school in deka lb county. they are evacuated calmly out of the back doors as police and swat team members went inside t that's where they apprehended the suspect. right now, we're suming police are trying to calm the area around and in the school just to make sure there are no other people on the site that shouldn't be or any that may be acting in conjunction with this man. right now, we have reporter os then scene with all those students calmly waiting to board buses, ready to be taken to a local walmart where they will be reunited with their parents. you can only imagine what this was like for those students. these are elementary school students. the shock of having something like this happen will probably

weigh on their minds some time. i know they're probably waiting to see mom and dad. they're waiting in this field here to board buses that will take them to a nearby walmart located on gresham road and i-2 i-20. >> the amp offtermath of a scho shooting, in decatur, georgia. a man came in and said he didn't want to hurt anybody but wanted to talk to police. and school officials are doing a head count to make sure they get back safely to mom and dad and their loved ones. as we get more updated information on that we'll let you no. coming up, troubling headlines, it's more profitable in some states to get welfare than to try to get a job. plus, a judge declares a controversial police tactic uncontroversial. civil rights advocates call it a victory. former attorney general michael mukasey warns the end to

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a quick update for you now on breaking news out of atlanta. we had reports earlier of gunfire at an atlanta area school. this is an elementary school outside atlanta in decatur. we're told police do have a suspect in custody, apparently according to our local affiliate walked into this elementary school with a gun and demanded to speak with someone. whether or not he fired his gun isn't clear. there are reports witnesses say that's what they heard. as far as we know from school officials, no one was injured. we'll keep you updated as we get more. this is a fox news alert. prosecutors resting their case against the u.s. army major accused in the ft. hood shooting

rampage. welcome to a new hour of "america live." i'm shannon breen in for megyn kelly. nearly 90 witnesses have testified in the trial of major nadal hassan. and identified him as the man who opened fire in the medical base in 2009. now, it is nadal's turn, and the major begin his own defense in texas. hello. >> the government rested its case about 30 minutes ago, 12:30 local time, 1:30 eastern. you said it, 89 witnesses total we have heard from on behalf of the prosecution over the last 11 days now, week three of this long awaited court-martial on the texas military post, ranging from medical experts who conducted the autopsies of the fallen to fbi agents who processed what the they described as an elaborate crime scene to people who were shot and survived on that november

2009 afternoon. we have seen tears on the stand, even a moment where at least one of the victims stared down major h hasan once his testimony had finished, the first time he had come face to face with him since that day. we have been under the impression all along once the prosecution rested we would move straight to major hasan's defense and call his own witnesses because he is serving as his own attorney. that is now not the case. they are giving it to him first thing tomorrow morning. the judge immediately dismissing the jury members once the prosecution rested, ordering back to the courthouse at 9:00 local time, 10:00 eastern tomorrow. from the very beginning, hasan acting as his own attorney said he would be calling at least two witnesses to the stand. in the last two days he has taken them off the witness list. he could continue doing tomorrow what he has done all along, that

is, participating very little and not really mounting much of a defense. if we continue to go down the course we're headed down, the prosecution will be giving closing arguments tomorrow and then we will hear from the jury because it will go to them. they could begin deliberations tomorrow afternoon, we are told, and if this 13 member panel finds major hasan guilty we move straight to the sentencing phase. remember, he does face the death penalty here. >> that he does. thank you very much for updating us. more breaking zbloourks this time from washington, just minutes ago, the white house announced the president is going to convene a meeting of the national security council this afternoon to discuss the possibility of cutting some it to egypt. the word comes after a white house spokesman was repeatedly grilled that military assistance has already been cut off, a lot of need to separate fact from

fiction. we go to white house correspondent, ed menry just havi -- ed henry, just having a briefing minutes ago. >> this gives you the gravity of the situation, given the violence and intense pressure from capitol hill and the world for the president to cut off aid to egypt, $1.3 billion that goes to the egyptian military. moments ago, the white house confirming at 2:30 p.m. eastern time the president will have a cabinet level meeting that will include secretary of state john kerry and chuck hagel. it means perhaps he is getting closer to decide what to do here. interesting because a lot of the briefing was spent here peppering josh ernest, the deputy spokesman saying the u.s. has secretly already cut off aid and josh denying that although

it got into semanti call back and forth whether we got into the process of stopping the aid or fully stopped the aid. the other issue the u.s. still has not officially declared what happened in egypt a coup even though president morsi was taken out by the military. i pressed josh ernest on that. >> reporter: this administration prides itself with transparency. >> i'm being transparent. >> why won't the administration be transparent with the entire world when they can see the military came in and took out a democratically elected president. >> for anybody who seeks an answer to this question we have made a determination seeking a determination whether or not a coup occurs is not in the best interests of the united states. we have been candid about that and delayed the delivery of f-16s, a decision made publicly. we canceled a joint military exercise known as bright star an

announcement the president made in martha's vineyard last week and announced our aid and assistance with egypt was under review. >> how are the americans doing with this? a new pugh poll out today, 51% say cut off military aid, 26% say continue military aid, 23% do not know. on the second question what about the president's response towards the egyptian military. 50% say he has not been tough enough. 6% too tough, 12% saying just about right. gives you an idea when 50% of the public in this pugh poll says the president has not been tough enough. >> thank you, ed. new evidence a dangerous environment for christians in egypt is getting worse. reports that coptic homes and businesses are physically marked with big black xs for future

attacks. churches are being burned to the ground and rounded up nuns and paraded like prisoners of war. are we looking at an all out jihad on christians. don't miss it at 2:30. we're also seeing a troubling study today suggesting it is more profitable in some cases to take taxpayer entitl entitlements than hold down a job. a study was done on the value of work, or welfare for a mother with two children. the welfare benefits is $38,000 more than the salary of an entry level schoolteacher in that same state. hawaii tops the list of equivalent benefits. more than $60,000 in benefits there. 33 states plus the district of collulombllaumbia , welfare ben paid better than an $8 job

would. welcome to you both. >> good to be with you. >> good afternoon. >> juan, one of the reports it goes on to say, we're not saying the people on welfare are lazy or stupid, they may be brilliant because they do the cost analysis and what it costs to go to work for transportation and childcare than to let the government do it. mike that did the study for kato says it's not that they're lazy, it shows people on welfare prefer to have a job. he's accumulated all the programs they might be eligible for, medicare to food stamp, housing, utility, free milk and cheese. that's how it gets added up. it's a little bit of distortion. they don't pay taxes where somebody a beginning teacher would pay taxes and put them at a disadvantage versus the

welfare recipient. >> we talked about this where there are even more to add up. it's better than a job that would pay you $15 an hour. is the government doing folks a disservice making it's easier to be dependent on the government than get a job as juan said most people would rather have a job than sitting around unemployed. >> there's definitely a work incentive going on, especially bad in new york and hawaii. what we're seeing is an incentive to not have people work and instead by not paying taxes and benefits and getting large generous packages it's more comfortable for them and they're making rational decisions to stay back and not work. we're seeing it not only in welfare but social security disability which has more than doubled in costs since the year 2000 well above the rate of inflation. something charles murray, the economist of the american institute calls the decline of

american industriness, when the government is incentivizing that we're seeing the fruits of that right now. >> this is just the federal government because there are state and local agencies as well. the federal government has 126 separate programs aimed at helping low income people. did that breed potential for trouble, even if they have laudable goals, when you have that, there must be -- there could be some overlap, certainly room for people to get involved in fraud, that kind of thing. it sounds pretty duplicative, 126. >> not all go to individual. some are general to the community to try to help with poverty. when you're talking about temporary assistance or needy family, you're talking about children, shannon. i don't think anybody wants to punish children who have poor parents. the idea is give everybody in our country a chance. we've gone through a recession and seen an increase in the food stamps role as a result.

i think people want a safety net in our country no matter how much for capitalism they might be. 50% of people on welfare in our country are working. 13% or so are involved in some job training or job searches. another 26% have some sort of job. it's that they don't have full time work. it's not the case -- to reiterate, these are not lazy people. when you create this incentive as you and jonathan were describing, we want a social safety net. >> obviously, nobody wants children in need or physically challenged to have extenuating circumstances. >> it begs the question, if you can make more than $60,000 in hawaii and not go to work, what is your incentive. >> a government program will not take somebody out of poverty. why we call it temporary

assistance. creating incentive to work is really bad. you have to show up and work hard and be positive. that's how you lift people out of poverty. when the government is creating incentives against that, you will have a problem. it happened in the 1990s fighting back against systemic welfare abuses and it would be sad to see this happen again and we have to relive this. >> thank you both for weighing in. >> a judge's decision to declare a controversial police tactic uncontroversial was hailed as major civil rights issue. michael mukasey says the ruling on new york's stop-and-frisk policy is not only right for appeal but could end up putting a lot of people at risk. new evidence the environment is dangerous for christians in egypt is getting worse as we see

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uncle tim, if you're watching, this story is just for you. president obama welcoming the only undefeated nfl team in history at the white house. members of the 1972 super bowl champions miami dolphins. back when they won it, it was not yet tradition to invite championship teams to the white house. probably not a good time anyway as the nixon administration was in the middle of watergate. and two did not attend the event because of policy differences with the president. >> a renewed debate is raging over new york city's stop and

asterisk policy found a federal judge's enforcement tool violates civil rights. now, the mayor and commissioner kelly warn it ties the hands of officers and could lead to a spike in violent crimes. michael mukasey joins us live. welcome. >> thank you. >> tell us where you think she got it wrong. >> i think she got it wrong from the get-go. she said before the bench before it was filed she wanted the plaintiffs to file the case related to a case she had. i think it's doubtful it was. she wanted to decide it. she reached out for it and it started from there. she had 19 separate incidents by the named plaintiffs and she went through those and found some were constitutional and some were not. she had a statistical expert who gave some really dubious

testimony. benjamin israeli is credited saying there are three kinds of falsehood, damned lies and statistics, this guy was definitely in the third category. >> you outline in this piece the real statistics, what was really happening and how the stop-and-frisk has worked and different racial impacts, those kinds of things. it sounds like the hard numbers are different from what the judge relied upon coming to the conclusion it's racist in some ways to have a policy of stop an frisk. >> she in essence suggested it was if the breakdown of stops doesn't match the general breakdown of the population in the relevant area, then there's discrimination going on, which is ridiculous. because the only way it would match it is if the searches were at random. in point of fact it matches fairly close lin most cases, the breakdown not of the population but the breakdown of people who commit crimes. she said, you can't look at that because that suggests to

everybody's guilty of committing crimes, we can't look at that number. i think that's ridiculous. >> what position does this put law enforcement officers in, in the middle of the night having to make split second decisions worrying about being questioned after the fact and they're trying to protect the community. >> that this is relevant question. this policy, not a program, a policy, is part of an active approach to law enforcement. if you don't take that approach and don't understand you can stop somebody if it looks like they're doing something suspicious, then what it does is take police officers and turn them into report writers. the police officer's natural reaction if we can't stop people and risking being sued for violating people's civil rights, what we will do if somebody comes us to with a report of a crime we'll write it out and submit it. the only arrest that will take place will be people who commit

crimes right in front of officer, very few. >> do you think we're getting to a place common sense and political correctness are running head to head with each other and what are the results when police officers hands are tied? >> i'm worried we're past that point. police officers hands are tied. they're no fools either. they're not going to stick and shouldn't stick their professional necks out and be expected to make arrests or stops, i should say, in the face of a policy that's -- that favors essentially holding them liable if somebody wants to second-guess them. there's no standard imposed for the monitor that the judge appointed. that monitor was responsible to her and to her only. >> now she also proposed a one year pilot program of having officer officers somewhere on them wear a camera in certain districts and certain places so interactions could be recorded and see what is going on at all times.

what kind of complication toes that have for suspect, innocent victims and officers? >> it's enormously complicated when you turn the camera on and off. is it on all the time. is it on during a domestic dispute the police officer arrives on the scene? on when an informant wants to tell a police officer about a crime? nobody wants to be on camera in that situation and whether the police officer turns it on or off. what happens if the officer sees something if he then turns the camera on the thing he saw will be in the past. the thing he saw, it won't pick that up. it's an enormously complicated thing plus a piece of jim crack technology that's not likely to work in this kind of a situation. i can understand why they do it with traffic stops or pulling people over on the road but not here. snow you think

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an update to a horrific plane crash in a residential neighborhood. you will remember this. it happened earlier this month in connecticut. the national safety bored released a preliminary report on the tragedy that killed two children on the ground. the ntsb revealing the witness saw the plane ascending upside down as it crashed nose first into two homes. that would be consistent how investigators found the wreckage. the cause of the crash has yet

to be determined. it was a classic washington scandal when david petraeus resigned as cia director last fall after apologizing for an extramarital affair with biographer, paula broadwell. today, we're learning new details about the case. >> hi. jill kelley is the tampa woman who got caught up in the petraeus scandal from threatening e-mails that turned out to be from the petraeus mistress, paula broadwell. it had her terrified and when her name was released, her life was consumed by the media frenzy. >> the heart of the investigation of david petraeus' downfall was family friend who his lover apparently felt threatened by. >> the pentagon went 30,000 pages of e-mails between general allen and this woman, jill kelley.

>> but broadwell didn't just conduct an online campaign against kelly a friend of general petraeus and general allen who ended up leaving his post in afghanistan. paula broadwell physically followed jill kelley on a couple of occasions and one instance, broadwell sent an e-mail saying she had seen kelly with a top official. and she knew in advance of a secret dinner between kelly, general allen and a handful of top officials. in an e-mail to kelly's husband, scott kelly was told to rein her in before we shame senior military and public officials and foreign ambassadors with who whom she has contact otherwise become an embarrassment to all and center, mails to several top military officials including strangely enough, petraeus himself and general allen.

that's according to a lawsuit kelly has filed against the fbi and pentagon charging them with ruining her reputation by leaking her name. federal prosecutors have declined to bring any charges against broadwell. the case began to unravel after the general forwarded the e-mail he received to kelly prompting her to go to her local fbi agent kelly humphries and humphries became famous for spreading a shirtless photo of himself around the internet whether he had an affair with kelly. an agent showed up at kelly's home and took her to an suv and pressed her whether she had sex west petraeus or allen. there is no evidence kelly had an affair with any but this victim of online harassment found her name being dragged through the media mud. >> thank you. an already dangerous environment for christians in egypt is getting a whole lot worse. coptic homes, businesses and schools literally marked,

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this is a fox news alert. we learned at the top of the hour, president obama will hold a top level meeting with his security within the hour and will discuss american assistance to egypt. comes as an all out jihad on christians is under way. supporters of the muslim brotherhood carrying out vicious attacks on church, homes, schools, even an orphanage. in one community, christian

homes and businesses have reportedly been marked with big black xs to actually single them out for attacks. at least 60 churches have been torched since the muslim brotherhood was removed from power. attacking christians is nothing new in egypt but increased dramatically, using the covering of protest to cover up these assaults. author of "hell or richmond," and fox news contributor and journalist and joe trippi, campaign manager for howard dean and worked on at least four other major presidential bids. welcome to you all. >> lisa, you have covered this area for a lengthy period of time. these attacks aren't new but seem escalated. >> they're extremely escalated first under the year morsi was president and more since wednesday. the muslim brotherhood vowed to

go and attack civilians. the easiest target is the christian community in egypt one of the oldest christian communities in the world. you have churches here over a thousand years old being torched to the ground. just yesterday memos were found by the investigative project on terrorism where the muslim brotherhood was actually giving their blessing to burn down these churches. you have young people being shot at. a 10-year-old girl last week was shot coming home from bible study. this was a very very tragic and sad part of the bigger story we're hearing on the ground in egypt. >> one of the things we heard, too, for the first time in 1600 years, 1600 years, one of these churches actually had to cancel and delay services. they had come under attack. is it time now for america to step up and say something much more forceful not only about the overall situation in egypt but about the specific attacks on

christians there? >> look, everybody would denounce the attacks on christians there. the problem is how do you stop it? right now, people are saying that the president hasn't been tough enough on the government, on the military. here, it's the military that's trying to stop the muslim brotherhood from doing this to the churches. this is a very very difficult situation for the united states unless we're going to do another some sort of invasion to stop it, which i just don't see happening. i don't think anybody's calling for that right now. >> colonel peters, i don't see u.s. troops on the ground as a solution to any of this. >> certainly not. the future of egypt has to be decided by egyptians. responding to joe trippi's remark, look, not everybody is condemning this. far from it. can you imagine the outrage this

administration would express if anywhere in the world christians had burned 60 mosques? but the administration's response to the attacks upon the murder of christians, the destruction of churches, some of them 1600 years old, has been one clause in one sentence. by the way, it's not just the administration. astonishingly, senator mccain, senator graham and others on the right are saying nothing about this but rather arguing that some magic how this marvelous morsi muslim brotherhood government should be reinstated. we're being cowards and it's fair game on christians. as far as the left, you can excite more sympathy for the destruction for the aztec and mayan empires than the destruction of 2,000 years of christian civilization in this middle east. this is a holocaust an we are as silent now as we were in the

1930s. >> i want to give you a chance to directly respond to that. would this be different if it were mosques being destroyed? >> any time you have this kind of situation under the cover of these demonstrations, somebody takes out somebody, we had this with the shia taking out sunnis, sunnis taking out shias, not just with christians. words are not going to stop this. that's the problem. you can denounce it all -- i denounce it -- i -- you can't just do this with words. it is going to be egyptians taking this into their own hands which is how this all started in this first place. it's never clean. it's always a mess. if there's not a whole lot that the international community can do about this. there are a lot of other things at risk here. i abhor this and want to do something about it but i don't have an answer. i'm not sure mccain does, graham

does or for that matter, our state department or anybody outside of egypt has an answer how you stop this right now. >> want to bring lisa back in here. we know today the president is going to meet, we understand, within an hour or so with his top security advisor, this is considered a cabinet level meeting, if it's not about words that will stop this, or cutting off aid, will backfire, what else can be done? >> i think it's the biggest fatal mistake for our administration to cut off aid in egypt. we don't need boots on the ground but need moral support. we need to tell the muslim brotherhood to put their weapons down. it's extremely clear from those who cover this area who the good guys are bad guys are. this is a war on egypt and we need to support that. if we want to stay in the future of egypt, we want to buy our seat at the table, there are

plenty of people already doing that. saudis, kuwaitis. the egyptians don't need our money. we need them more than they need us. it was in stated years ago to keep our interests in the area. we have to remember what our interest is in the area continues to be. security of the suez canal. keeping terrorists out of the sinai peninsula and the camp david accords. we have to remember once the dust settles and egypt is back on its feet looking to build this government, we're the ones who will want a seat at that table and the ones that want our interests kept again. >> in the midst of all those interests all valid and legitimate and strong interests do you worry the plight of the coptic christians gets lost somewhere in that important priority. >> it already has gotten lost. are there articles on the front page of the "new york times"? how many net worse other than fox -- networks other than fox covering the barbaric attacks on

christians throughout the middle east. this destruction of an inextricably rich 2,000-year-old situation, we not only don't do anything, we don't say anything. meanwhile the people of egypt -- lisa is absolutely right. the people of egypt are struggling against islamist totalitarianism and president obama and senator mccain are siding with the islamist totalitarianism. explain why that makes sense for america. >> thank you. we'll leave it there. >> thank you. urgent health alert. doctors warning about deadly new danger from ticks. not one you probably heard of. plus a giant uptick in cases of lime disease. not exactly upstairs, downstair, but plans for a brand new condo, of luxury units sparking s

segregation, a porscsh front do for wealthy and separate door for folks in back. >> one door for one building and share the access equally. >> i guess this is a good compromise in order for them to build their building and also provide housing for other people.

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here, gentlemen. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> let's talk, first, about lime disease. that's something people are familiar with. i understand a number of cases we're seeing this year sounds like really something new. >> the cdc for the first time acknowledged the number of cases of lime disease is actually much greater than previously recognized. originally there were 30,000 cases believed to occur every year in the united states mostly in 13 states. current estimates by cdc is there are over 300,000 cases of lyme disease and that number may change as more data comes in. >> steve, in addition to that, there are new things we need to be worried about and may have been going on in the past but misdiagnosed or underdiagnosed, what is the danger of the new viruses. there have been a number of viruses been known in the past and others perhaps been misdiagnosed. one virus has a 30% mortality

rate and thankfully, it's very rare m. we just look for other places we can locate this in ticks. black leg and deer ticks, certainly those species of concern there. there are ticks called hard ticks transform various diseases in this south and other parts of the united states. >> doctor, what kinds of symptoms do people need to look out for? how is it diagnosed? a blood test? what do they need to know. hey, they've been out in the woods, summertime, you never know. >> what people need to recognize, lyme disease has a very specific set of symptoms and sometimes can lie silent or dormant a period of time. initially what happens during the first 24 or 48 hours a deer tick can transmit lyme disease but also transmit a deadly virus. or borealli, another type.

there are other ticks not in the lyme tick family. deer ticks can transmit other diseases as well as and rocky mountain spotted fever. people should be aware of different symptoms, any flu-like symptoms or severe fever chills during the summer, that can be an early indication lyme disease is present. if one of these other viruses are present which can be transmitted within 15 minutes is present, those symptoms can be correlated only through a spinal tap, a very serious condition doctors and neurologists need to be aware of. these other tick-borne illnesses may have similar symptoms but only include fatigue and migraine symptoms. there is a wide variety people need to be aware of during the summer months and wide variety of precautions to take.

>> what's the best advice to make sure you don't pick upper oupper -- pick up one of those critters. >> using a good repellent and in that case more is better. deet is a common repellent to use. 20 to 25% deet is fine to use on your skin and clothing but not on children below 2 years of age, perhaps 10% on children years 2-5. also, inspecting each other when you're out hiking, looking, checking for ticks. it looks kind of odd to do this if you have long socks, pull them out over the top of your pants leg. ticks get on that way. >> if you do spot a tick, what's your best advice? remove it yourself or go straight to the doctor? >> if you can get a doctor to remove it within that specified period of time, we're finding they can be transmitted quickly, 24-48 hours.

we recommend a careful extraction using tweezer or forceps. you have to be careful removing the tick because they bury their head inside the skin. they're extremely small. some can fit on the tip of a pin head. you need to be very careful. use a magnifying glass to spot it. put your frceps around the tick and pull gently until the tick releases and apply some alcohol to at the area, remove the tick and place it in a safe environment, the trash or down the sink or in the bathroom, and make sure that if you come in contact with it, that you carefully watch your hands afterwards as well. >> excellent advice. good warning signs to watch out for. thank you both very much. >> thank you. >> concerns about segregation in the world's melting pot. a plan to combine affordable housing units with luxury condos

in a single building. a good goal. we're going to explain why some are concerned. this plan could actually make some residents who live there feel a whole lot like second class citizens. avorite. [ female announcer ] welcome to the new aarp. we're ready to help you rediscover purpose and passion with programs like life reimined to inspire you and connect you, resources to help turn your goals and dreams into real possibilities. aarp, an ally for real possibilities. find new tools and ideas for work, money, health and fun at aarp.org/possibilities.

separate but equal could be taking on a whole new face. a developer in the big apple is under fire for plans for a condo building. some units will be reserved for low-income housing but those residents may not be able to use the same front door as those who are paying market rates for the condos. lisa is here with details from new york city. >> this is a picture of the luxury constant minimummum tower under construction at 40

riverside boulevard overlooking the hudson river. the developer is planning to build 219 condo units, some starting at over a million dollars each, according to westside rag.com. they will include 55 affordable housing units with rents starting at $845. local community board seven says they would have a separate answer -- separate entrance and elevator. >> why do these affordable units have to be segregated apart from the condos that the wealthy can afford to buy? >> an issue because the low-income housing would make the developer eligible for tax benefits and air rights that could be worth millions of dollars. the company says many factors go into the design of the building, including efficiency, cost, and financessability, especially when units like this are permanently affordable. those living here have an opinion. >> one door for one building and share the access.

>> i guess this is a good compromise in order for them to build their building, and also provide housing for other people. >> the local community board expressed its own concerns about the project despite the number of jobs and housing units it will provide. the company says the goal is to deliver on filling the need in a beautiful neighborhood and says there will be no shortage of applicants. the city is reviewing the company's application. >> developers up and don the west -- up and down the west side and in the city manage to intermanipulatingle affordable units with nontornadoable units. it's done everywhere. there's no reason to be segregation. >> thanks to lisa for the report. this is not the first building in the city to have separate entrances but the developer here should be following the spirit of affordable housing laws and the assemblyman doesn't think that. >> the new best friend in the

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